Never trust someone from the government or any corporation with personal interests that may conflict with your own safety.
There was this one accident when Uriel got drunk and picked a fist fight with Russ Cox one year on 9 convention.
Unlimited Detail is different from existing 3D graphics systems because it can process unlimited point cloud data in real time.
Sexist jokes are the number one way to drive women out of any group, and they are more common than many people realize.
Note: NEVER use the term "feminazi." It discredits all feminists, and trivializes the victims of the Nazi Holocaust. Consider how ridiculous it sounds to call people like Rush Limbaugh "male chauvinazis" and you may understand why "feminazi" is so emotionally loaded.
Don't make sexual advances towards women.
Like any other human being, a woman wants to have friends and be appreciated for who she is.
It's sad and pathetic to talk about the lack of women in computing from the viewpoint of a man who blames his lackluster love life on the lack of women in computing. The best way to annoy and drive away women is to talk about the lack of women in computers in this way.
That howto is full of FUD.
New people are unwelcome. Please do not get involved.
Speaking as a long-time SL resident
Being nice will probably lead to the extinction of the human race.
The (9P) protocol has also other glaring mis-features -- it lacks the ability of moving files -- if you want to move a big file on a remote machine from one directory to another, you'll have to copy it back and forth, all the way. This is incredibly dumb.
I doubt plan9 will ever get into a usable system. Everything inside is like high-brow silliness, second-system syndrome and stupid vulnerabilities you only meet with in historic code from 30 years ago.
As to the ideas inspired by plan9 in modern unix systems, they quickly became just encumbering legacy crap -- e.g. the /proc system in linux.
When Remington first started marketing typewriters, the company assumed the machine would not be used for composing but for transcribing dictation, and that the person typing would be a woman. Flowers were printed on the casing of early models to make the machine seem more comfortable for women to use.
Bigelow & Holmes, Inc. created the screen fonts in the luc, lucm, lucsans, and pelm directories and granted permission to redistribute them with plan9port.
I can easily get fossil to deadlock. It would be great if anyone with fossil internals expertise could comment.
today there were problems with the Fossil FS on my Plan9 test installation.
I can't remember ever having lost data with fossil+venti
I ran dozens of file servers with only Fossil or both Fossil and Venti since 2004, and I never lost any byte of data.
I experienced only few problems with Fossil.
So far, I only succeeded to reproduce data-lost problems on Fossil when running heavy stress testing.
NIX 64-bit kernel is available
Out of curiosity: 9front makes high claims about device drivers, are these compatible with Plan 9 (and NIX)? If so, is there a list?
nix has been dealing with problems due to osx : mangling.
For those using 9vx on OSX: it's really easy to set up your local drive to support a case sensitive file system. Just don't make it the root partition or where /Users resides in case you run any applications out of ~/Applications that come from certain large corporations (aka any that really pushed the Carbon APIs, or applications that originated in Carbon but were only slowly migrated to Cocoa). You can create a case-sensitive disk image, though that has some drawbacks. Partition your drive and then add an entry into /etc/fstab so that it always mounts at a logical place, and not some /Volumes with a potentially variable name.
Adapt an existing Javascript implementation of Styx/9P to use HTML5 WebSockets -- or implement one from scratch -- and create a 9P file server that provides a simple draw device using keyboard, mouse event handling and either an SVG or a Canvas element for display.
For some, rio represents a barrier to entry
It would be nice to have an alternative window manager for those people who don't like rio, perhaps something with more traditional title bars, minimize/maximize/close buttons, etc.
a new thought paradigm that realizes just as ancient philosophy and theology were not enough and gave way to existentialism, that modern, post-modern, post-post-modern, neo-post-structuralism, post-subjectivity, etc., thinking is currently insufficient as a guidepost to the different possible flavors of posthuman future, and that a radical Posthuman Principia will be needed which apprehends post-Marxist economics, post-existential metaphysics, and a model-free, assertion-free, wholistic philosophy
what i can understand only is that 9front is better than plan9
The majority of the work up until this point has been decoupling the Nix kernel from plan9 dependencies and separating adding bourne shell equivalents of rc only mkfile code.
Does anyone know if there is any scalable and performant MVC framework available for building web apps? If no, then what is the reason that go is lagging in that front?
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I've downloaded the nix bits from http://code.google.com/p/nix-os/ and compiled it under 9vx on OSX, but I'm having some trouble getting the resultant kernel to boot.
(#plan9) TimKack → Fish: Got a fossil/fossil: fsSnapshot: corrupted meta data now - I think it came from that I took away the -V (I want to send off snaps to venti)
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i'd really like things to tab complete because I have no idea of the API
Fast compilation times[8]
This worked very well under Mavericks.
Log: Edited wiki page 9pi through web user interface.
I briefly looked at 9front and 9atom. I thought I would query this group about the two. Is one better maintained than the other? Does one have better hardware support than the other?
Hi, I'm using golang to code a 9p filesystem on linux.
In spite of some really great ideas, I think we'd all agree that Plan-9 has no real future.
I now have 9Front running fine, and, in fact, I am renewing a port of an OO language extension to it.
While I think the overall concept is amazing, my understanding is that the user interface stayed somewhere in the mid-nineties, and that it lacks things people tend to expect in a modern UNIX-like operating system, such as a decent browser, vim, shell history and symlinks.
Porting a modern browser to Plan 9 woulbe incredibly painful, and I believe the codebase of Chromium or Firefox is larger than Plan 9 itself these days!
It is really annoying that things which could be accomplished perfectly well in a browser are now apps because apparently the web is terribly unfashionable these days.
Does someone have vt100 terminal emulator on plan9?
Why is Go a big deal?
I started using Go professionally over a year ago, and since then almost exclusively, and I've never felt any happier than before when it comes to programming. As silly as that may sound, I explicitly mention that because I struggled with episodes of major depression for years (probably even a decade without an official diagnosis), and the simplicity takes away a lot of day-to-day frustration out of my job.
Subject: [9fans] Need help setting up MacPro to prepare ps files for printing on HP PCL 3 printer (HP 6480)
I don't care if it's 3 meg or 300 meg, compared to the size of my hard drive. -- Brad Fitzgerald, on golang binary size
Did you know that more than 80 percent of the time when a gun is fired in the U.S., no one calls 911?
To keep the ball rolling, let me suggest that we drop the requirement that Plan 9 be self-contained as a measure to make some progress with existing expertise.
Plan 9 does not (yet?) contain sufficient tools to be self-sustaining.
Has anyone else had trouble getting recent plan9.iso’s to boot?
This year I'll continue to work on the Dart implementation of dis interpreter.
Would it be possible to change a bit the 9front mercurial repository so that it can work on MacOS filesystem.
I'm doing a research about OS'GUI, and I'd like to know if Plan 9 has a GUI. If so, where can I take some screenshoots? Thanks in advance
Is there a list somewhere on the web with all those 9atom patches?
I created a web service in Go for transcoding gif to html5 video
Higher level terminal UI library?
I noticed some odd problem with Fossil on plan9port
Just heard about Plan 9, and was wondering if anyone would care to take a stab at explaining the differences between it, Linux, and the versions of BSD.
If upstream rejects a kernel module pull request solely based on the fact that it is written in Go; despite the module being well written and reasonably efficient, then I say their prejudice is in hostile conflict with the pace of innovation.
[dev][sbase] Proposal of suckless compression
[9fans] is plan9.bell-labs.com down
I like Acme a lot, but without vi keybindings, I cannot edit text.
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My two favorite languages before Go came along were Objective-C and Python.
If there was a simple way to port a modern web browser to Plan9, I'd seriously consider switching.
A Raspberry PI running Plan9 with a spiffy accelerated compositor and plan9ish file-framebuffer-windows would be enough to convince me to dive in and have a play around.
You need to enable Javascript.
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I am using p9p version of upas/nedmail and upas/marshal.
Is there anyway this github repo could be synchronized with the main plan9-labs repo?
Has anyone used Plan-9 have feedback on running it?
UX-wise (and generally speaking, for most common uses of a computer these days), Plan9 is, sadly, almost useless.
